easy way to increase your donations/payments
Ive only had your product for a couple of days but so far it's fantastic. I wanted to give back by making a small suggestion that might help increase payments for it. On the payment request page you should point out that time is money. Unwanted ads waste a lot of people's time by increasing the time it takes web pages to load, slowing down computer performance, having to manually close popup windows, not to mention what can happen if one causes you to get malware. If you could spend all of that time doing something that earns you money it would add up fast. Thus, by saving you time adblock puts more money in your pocket. And who wouldn't be more than happy to give a little bit of that money to the people that helped you get it? I think this perspective will help people see the real world value of your product and that even if they do pay something for it they will still be coming out ahead financially. And then of course there's all of the things you can do with that extra time that are priceless. Obviously you will have to find a more concise way to convey that message, but I hope this helps. And feel free to use any part of this post as a testimonial anywhere you like. :-)
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1 Posted by Roger Tompkins on 09 Dec, 2014 04:03 AM
I've used AdBlock now for exactly two years. Two weeks after I first installed it I sent $5. Eight months later I sent another $5. Both contributions were unsolicited in any way, shape or form.
15 minutes ago I sent another $10, again unsolicited. I want this man, Michael, to win. He has done something very good and I don't need to be asked to demonstrate my appreciation for his work. I sincerely hope there are enough contributors out there (among those who don't need to be asked) to compensate him for his excellent program.
He should not have to grovel.
It'll be interesting to see how much support he'll get without having to ask for money. I hope he'll be treated fairly. It is certainly an outstanding piece of work.
Support Staff 2 Posted by Neelfyn on 08 Jan, 2015 10:36 PM
Hi Adria and Roger,
Apologies for the super late reply!
Adria, thank you for your suggestion, I've passed it on to the rest of the team, and thank you so much to both of you for the support — it really means a lot to us!
Neelfyn closed this discussion on 08 Jan, 2015 10:36 PM.
Roger Tompkins re-opened this discussion on 08 Jan, 2015 11:34 PM
3 Posted by Roger Tompkins on 08 Jan, 2015 11:34 PM
So who is Neelfyn?
I think the trick here is to generate financial support without calling
enough attention to yourselves as to excite those who push the ad laden
sites. You don't want them to focus on how to undo you.
I don't have an idea except maybe one thing --- make your donation button
just large enough to get the point across.
So far AdBlock is working almost everywhere, even FaceBook. That's a
surprise. You haven't got FB's attention yet. There are a couple movie
streaming sites which understand your program and force the user to disable
you, but they are few.
I view this as a magnificent piece of work which has a relatively short
life span, simply because the giants you are taking on are going to get
pissed one day.They are going to try to take you out eventually. Try to
stay under the radar. If you can do that for a good long while and still
collect fair money you might do very well.
Again, who is Neeflyn? Who am I talking to? Mike?
Think about this: eventually an outfit like yours is going to have to make
deals. You are eliminating revenue from content producers. They'll let you
live if you pay them. Just a thought. Meantime, under the radar.
Afterwards -- what next?
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Support Staff 4 Posted by Neelfyn on 13 Jan, 2015 12:14 PM
Hi Roger,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! We definitely keep this in mind, especially considering AdBlock's slightly unusual position.
I (Neelfyn) am one of the 8 people who make up the AdBlock team. You can actually find a list of all the people who ever contributed to the project (and what they do or did) on our contributors page!
5 Posted by James Edward Le... on 12 Feb, 2015 04:56 AM
"You don't want them to focus on how to undo you."
Many websites have been focusing on anti-Adblock methods for years, almost as soon as Adblock Plus was forked from the original Adblock for Firefox back in 2006 (no relationship to AdBlock, first made for Chrome as soon as Chrome allowed extensions in 2010).
Only recently have filter-list authors decided to fight back to any significant degree, with the Adblock Warning Removal List by the ABP team (which you can also subscribe to in AdBlock), and Reek's filter-list-and-UserScript combo.
If you meant "kill off" by "undo" then that would be a tall order, because all of the major ad-blockers are open-source.
With that said, I think AdBlock already makes its requests for donations clear enough on its first-run page, and there's no "trick" behind it to try to keep it somehow under the radar of ad-supported sites: There's no way the most popular extension for any browser would go under the radar; instead it's a balance between being noticeable enough to encourage donations but not so obtrusive that it turns off users (AdBlock does not participate in Eyeo's Acceptable Ads initiative and relies solely on donations and subscriptions to its special CatBlock fork, which swaps blocked image ads with random cat pictures instead of transparent 1x1px PNGs).
6 Posted by Kieran on 14 Feb, 2015 09:51 PM
I'll close this discussion again now, but one thing to note is that we have now stopped supporting the CatBlock that James mentioned, and it's now available for free (it's also now open-source) at http://catblock.getadblock.com
Kieran closed this discussion on 14 Feb, 2015 09:51 PM.